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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:08:27 am» quote
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what a fucking waste.
http://www.dazeddigital.com/Photography/article/4381/1/Urban_Polaroids [www.dazeddigital.com] »
polaroids at UO (1466 views)
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:16:21 am» quote
- how is that a waste.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:17:21 am» quote
- i just see lots of jerkoffs going "zomg retro!" and buying them and either not using it, or, well, wasting it.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:18:33 am» quote
- so you're annoyed because they're selling it at urban outfitters. would you feel better if they were being sold somewhere else?
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:20:40 am» quote
- or would you just feel better if they weren't be sold. or were somehow being sold to people who supposedly won't waste them. and how would a distributor make sure that they weren't being wasted?
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lila_engel posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:27:15 am» quote
- i'm glad you can still buy them anywhere, frankly. uo sells all the lomo stuff, too. w/e
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:28:24 am» quote
- yeah exactly how i feel. also it's not like polaroids were ever and underground thing. until they went out of business you can buy them at any drugstore.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:28:33 am» quote
- *an underground
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:28:44 am» quote
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:20:40 am
or would you just feel better if they weren't be sold. or were somehow being sold to people who supposedly won't waste them. and how would a distributor make sure that they weren't being wasted?
its pretty simple, really. when you have to go find them online, it assumes a certain intention to make it worth your time that walking into a store and picking it up because its the latest cool thing doesn't.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:29:29 am» quote
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:28:24 am
yeah exactly how i feel. also it's not like polaroids were ever and underground thing. until they went out of business you can buy them at any drugstore.
its not about polaroid being underground, its about there being a finite supply of film left that *will* run out, soon.
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:30:25 am» quote
- I'm sorry but UO is so smart.
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lila_engel posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:30:30 am» quote
- well, not if they become the latest cool thing
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:35:26 am» quote
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yeah if the kids go crazy over them, someone will produce them.
also:
IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:30:25 am
I'm sorry but UO is so smart.
fucking love that company.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:36:47 am» quote
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:28:44 am
its pretty simple, really. when you have to go find them online, it assumes a certain intention to make it worth your time that walking into a store and picking it up because its the latest cool thing doesn't.
this is kind of ridiculous to me. you're suggesting that young people who have maybe never had the opportunity to use polaroids and therefore don't know to seek them out don't deserve to use them. that seems sort of selfish.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:38:46 am» quote
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:35:26 am
yeah if the kids go crazy over them, someone will produce them.
uh... its not that simple.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:40:42 am» quote
- do you not remember what it's like to be a curious kid? aren't you practically the same age as me? we were kids like, last year. i hated when people like, 5-10 years older than me thought i "didn't deserve" products/music/clothing just because it wasn't as relevant in my youth.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:41:39 am» quote
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:38:46 am
secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:35:26 am
yeah if the kids go crazy over them, someone will produce them.
uh... its not that simple.
i don't feel like getting into the technicalities of how polaroids are made but supply and demand is a pretty age old truism.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:43:11 am» quote
- i don't mean to be going off on you on this specific topic but this attitude toward youth has always bothered me.
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:43:29 am» quote
- I think he might be talking about the fact that the idea of Polaroid film is patented to Polaroid. But I don't know what that means once the company goes under......
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:44:15 am» quote
- if the children want instant film, someone will make instant film
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:44:31 am» quote
- But I feel you Amy. I know I'm a few years older than you but I also experience that in my daily life with people who are like, 31.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:45:57 am» quote
- I BELIEVE THE CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:47:26 am» quote
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you know what kids are using these days? cameraphones. they don't want or care about instant film.
instead, a bunch of hipsters and wannabe hipsters are going to go see a polaroid for sale at UO and buy it and forget about it in a week, all the while the supply of film gets more and more scarce.
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:49:01 am» quote
- So how many "rolls" have film have you stocked up on so far?
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:50:10 am» quote
- I haven't because I'm not a Polaroid nut, and I'm not going to buy it and keep someone else from getting it.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:50:19 am» quote
- ian, you stay far away from my future children. are you not going to let your kids draw because they can just hop on the computer and use illustrator? do you think theres not a single kid out there who might buy some polaroids from UO and do something really incredible with them?
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:50:51 am» quote
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:50:19 am
ian, you stay far away from my future children. are you not going to let your kids draw because they can just hop on the computer and use illustrator? do you think theres not a single kid out there who might buy some polaroids from UO and do something really incredible with them?
no, i do not think anyone will buy a polaroid at UO and do anything meaningful with it. there, I said it.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:51:18 am» quote
- for the record i have own polaroid cameras and used to take pictures on a daily basis before they became so rare, but i still 100% support this.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:51:50 am» quote
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and no, i won't keep my kids from drawing, thats ridiculous.
but if there was a severely limited and dwindling supply of crayons left in the entire world, to be shared between artists and kids and everyone, i'd come up with something else for my kid to do.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:52:25 am» quote
- wow. well, good luck to your children.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:53:43 am» quote
- seriously. i mean, how would you know that your kids werent going to grow up to be the most amazing crayon using artists that this world has ever known?
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:53:56 am» quote
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reggie posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:52:29 am
you are making some really biased and just thoughtless assumptions.
says the person who didn't even read the link, as demonstrated by
reggie posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:53:14 am
ps: there is a group trying to get this formula, so that they can keep polariods going.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:54:33 am» quote
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reggie posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:53:57 am
plus news flash: "kids" aren't the only people shopping at UO
yeah, i wasn't the one that brought the whole "its for the children!" argument into this
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:55:36 am» quote
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:54:33 am
reggie posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:53:57 am
plus news flash: "kids" aren't the only people shopping at UO
yeah, i wasn't the one that brought the whole "its for the children!" argument into this
then who were you referring to that would consider polaroids "zomg, retro"
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:56:21 am» quote
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:53:56 am
reggie posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:52:29 am
you are making some really biased and just thoughtless assumptions.
says the person who didn't even read the link, as demonstrated by
reggie posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:53:14 am
ps: there is a group trying to get this formula, so that they can keep polariods going.
where does it say anything about that in the link? (i seriously can't find it in the article)
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:58:56 am» quote
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are you referring to
"When Polaroid stopped production of their Instant Film in 2008, The Impossible Project purchased all the machinery and equipment at Polaroid's Dutch factory to bring back Instant Film in 2010."
because that only supports her argument.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:02:34 am» quote
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If the Impossible Project works out, which is looking good, and they start mass production again, I'd hope to see it lots of places.
But right now, there is a finite, limited supply of film, and it's foolish to just assume the Impossible Project is going to work so it's ok to waste what is left.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:04:03 am» quote
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also for the record i just want to say that this:
theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:50:51 am
no, i do not think anyone will buy a polaroid at UO and do anything meaningful with it. there, I said it.
suggests that no one who shops at a specific store (that you've likely never stepped foot in) has any potential for artistic talent.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:04:04 am» quote
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nando posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:00:55 am
"hipsters and wannabe hipsters"
This. I was referring to UOs typical market, Who I expect to view it that was as they do lots ofother stuff sold there.
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:04:05 am» quote
- what do you think is worse? a hipster or a wannabe hipster?
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:05:13 am» quote
- why do people who shop at urban outfitters have to either be a hipster or wannabe? why can't people just like wearing a specific type of clothing? why can't those people also make worthwhile art?
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:06:24 am» quote
- i'd like to know where you shop, ian, so that i can make outlandish generalizations about you and see how they hold up.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:07:03 am» quote
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:04:05 am
what do you think is worse? a hipster or a wannabe hipster?
bad choice of words. that's not what this is about.
reggie posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:05:14 am
dude that "market" are the people who still use this stuff anyway and would "put it to good use" as you said.
no, that market is much, much larger than the market of people who actually appreciate this stuff.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:07:51 am» quote
- what about my questions
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:08:13 am» quote
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:07:51 am
what about my distractions
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:08:28 am» quote
- why is theotheriammeyer acting like polaroid film is the fucking holy grail? There have been a ton of other film stocks that have gone out of production that I'm sure people would be SO STOKED to get their hands on even if they had to go buy it at Urban.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:09:36 am» quote
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reggie posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:08:44 am
like all my polariods from childhood aren't appreciated cause my mom wasn't an artist. damn. let me call her and let her know.
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:10:13 am» quote
- Do they still make 110 film? I (my dad) bought the best little spy camera at FAO when I was little that used that.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:10:14 am» quote
- listen, ian, i'm not trying to mock you in anyway. i think i'm asking pretty valid questions and answering all of your questions as if they are also valid. if you're going to start a thread on a debatable topic you may as well follow through with some dignity.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:11:21 am» quote
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:10:14 am
listen, ian, i'm not trying to mock you in anyway. i think i'm asking pretty valid questions and answering all of your questions as if they are also valid. if you're going to start a thread on a debatable topic you may as well follow through with some dignity.
oh come on, you brought "for the kids!" into this, which is irrelevant. you made baseless attacks on me personally and asked for fuel to use to ridicule me and distract from the issue.
so you'll excuse me if i take this latest post with healthy dose of salt.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:14:54 am» quote
- i could ask you to site those things but this is kind of a ridiculous argument. i guess i was trying to open your mind up to the possibility of modern youth doing worthwhile things and if you don't want to believe that then you certainly won't change your mind because of anything i'm saying. what it comes down to, basically, is that you've just made an assumption about a product, a group of people and a store, none of which you apparently know anything about. debating this with you is like debating gay marriage with an evangelical teenager.
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nando posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:15:44 am» quote
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Let me say that I really don't like Urban Outfitters and think the prices are way too high for the actual quality of product they provide and think their clothing choices are just retarded sometimes. (see pre-holed sleeveless t-shirts for $45 from a few months ago)
I only really shop there if I have a gift card given to me for Christmas or my birthday or something.
That being said, good for them for providing products that people are willing to spend stupid money on. Good for them for saying "Nobody is buying up this supply of Polaroid film. People want this. Polaroids have picked up in popularity over the last few years and we have the money and the resources to get this to people that dont live near the factories in THE NETHERLANDS."
You know who else does stuff like this? Hot Topic.
"Hey, these kids are starting to buy those records again. Why dont we start stocking records? Let's keep a copy of a Bad Brains record in our store and see if someone buys it."
Do they charge a bunch for records? Sure...compared to eBay. Are there a shit ton of kids that are really benefiting from having vinyl be sold at a local store at the mall? Probably one of the only stores that sells vinyl that kids already go to.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:16:41 am» quote
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:14:54 am
i could ask you to site those things but this is kind of a ridiculous argument. i guess i was trying to open your mind up to the possibility of modern youth doing worthwhile things and if you don't want to believe that then you certainly won't change your mind because of anything i'm saying. what it comes down to, basically, is that you've just made an assumption about a product, a group of people and a store, none of which you apparently know anything about. debating this with you is like debating gay marriage with an evangelical teenager.
mmm delicious irony.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:17:13 am» quote
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* Main Entry: ap·par·ent·ly
* Pronunciation: \-lē\
* Function: adverb
* Date: 1566
: it seems apparent <the window had apparently been forced open> <apparently, we're supposed to wait here>
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:17:35 am» quote
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nando posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:15:44 am
Good for them for saying "Nobody is buying up this supply of Polaroid film. People want this. Polaroids have picked up in popularity over the last few years and we have the money and the resources to get this to people that dont live near the factories in THE NETHERLANDS."
uh, that's false. people have been buying it. you don't have to go to the netherlands to get it.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:17:51 am» quote
- ian, you're doing that thing where you pick at something else because your argument doesn't carry any weight again.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:18:16 am» quote
- (at your "delicious irony" comment)
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:18:25 am» quote
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:17:51 am
ian, you're doing that thing where you pick at something else because your argument doesn't carry any weight again.
wait, like you did? oh, sorry. I thought that's what we were doing in here.
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:18:31 am» quote
- <3 Hot Topic!
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:18:57 am» quote
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:18:31 am
<3 Hot Topic!
I've got some great shirts I found at Hot Topic. I usually don't admit to it.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:20:15 am» quote
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hahah, seriously? no, i did not, and i'm amazed that this is really the turn your allowing an argument that i should hope you'd wan't people to take seriously to take. again,
secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:14:54 am
i could ask you to site those things but this is kind of a ridiculous argument.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:21:19 am» quote
- you sarcasm is actually disappointing me. i was hoping for a good debate.
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nando posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:26:25 am» quote
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:17:35 am
uh, that's false. people have been buying it. you don't have to go to the netherlands to get it.
You're right. You don't have to go to The Netherlands to get it. Thanks to Urban Outfitters bringing over batches of the last run of film over from their factories. Is it available at other stores? Sure. Can people buy it at other stores? Sure.
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vermicious_knid posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:28:17 am» quote
- you guys are killing me.
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:32:20 am» quote
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NANDO WINS
::rings bell, does dance, takes meaningless polaroids::
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:07:33 pm» quote
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:20:15 am
hahah, seriously? no, i did not, and i'm amazed that this is really the turn your allowing an argument that i should hope you'd wan't people to take seriously to take...
i don't care to argue about it, i don't expect to change anyone's mind, and i don't really care what anyone else thinks about it. i posted the link, and my take on it. i kept going a bit because i was bored. *shrug*
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:08:50 pm» quote
- all in good fun. we've moved on to the drinkable weed thread.
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:09:46 pm» quote
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:08:50 pm
all in good fun. we've moved on to the drinkable weed thread.
I think we can agree that's a much more valuable use of all of our time. ;)
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andypereZ posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:10:01 pm» quote
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lila_engel posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 10:27:15 am
i'm glad you can still buy them anywhere, frankly. uo sells all the lomo stuff, too. w/e
See I'm just wondering what the pricetag on these will be. That's "The Lomographis society" ruined cool niche trashy Russian cameras and novelty cameras. You used to be able to buy a Holga for 15 bucks. Now thanks to those dicks they're like 40-75 dollars! And those are still being produced! Lomo LC-As used to be like 50 bucks, now they're well over 100. Fuck these assholes.
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andypereZ posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:21:51 pm» quote
- Via the "lomographic society" in general and by proxy urban. And because they hiked up the prices now the prices on shit you CANT get at K&M for 20 bucks like an old Kiev 35 went from 15-20 bucks to the 50-100 range, every camera they get their grubby little hands on the buy up the whole stock of and hike the price through the roof. And frankly most of these things were only cool BECAUSE they were so cheap. Alot of times they break pretty fucking easily.
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reggie posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:28:16 pm» quote
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ok now you lost me. i don't really know what i'm talking about when it comes to film. very basic photo classes and playing with whatever camera i can get my hands on.
that being said i LOVE nmy holga and got some really great shots from recent trips. i need to scan them!
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:32:03 pm» quote
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ben posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:28:18 pm
they should make you present your hood pass before you buy this camera or the UO fixed gear bike.
this.
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9 y.o. virgin posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:36:23 pm» quote
- I would be dark if they were selling 2 inch tape at "uo" that year they quit making it. But polaroids....I have no opinion
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andypereZ posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:37:01 pm» quote
- The problem with Polaroid film in regards to the impossible project (ilford) taking it over to start producing instant film again isn't one of supply/demand just firing the machines back up and gettin 'er done. It's that they're trying to redesign the way the instant fi works entirely, out of necessity mind you. Alot of the chemichals and elements that go into making the film are now cost prohibitive or can't be produced in an environmentally conscious manner. long story short, It may not work. Which I'm assuming is why they have a time limit on the project, the companies funding thenproject mist likely imposed it.
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andypereZ posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 12:41:26 pm» quote
- I'm frankly surprised that Fuji stepped up and started making type 100 instant film (which I think is infinitely cooler than Polaroid 600) considering the fact that a lot of pro photogs that used to use type 100/Polaroid backs on their cameras for proofing before shooting film have switched over entirely to digital.
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 4:33:57 pm» quote
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I will never fucking understand why they think our opinions matter. And the best part is otherianmeyer doesn't even FUCKING LIVE HERE.
http://gothamist.com/2009/08/20/last_polaroids_sold_off_at_urban_ou.php [gothamist.com] »
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secret_robot posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 4:38:14 pm» quote
- god dammit, ian!
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9 y.o. virgin posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 5:34:34 pm» quote
- "Pat, I'd like to buy a comma"
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 5:34:41 pm» quote
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Thanks for signing up to post that and then not even read the thread.
A+++ FIRST POST!
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theotherianmeyer posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 11:25:26 pm» quote
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IsThisForReal posted this on August 20th, 2009 @ 4:33:57 pm
I will never fucking understand why they think our opinions matter. And the best part is otherianmeyer doesn't even FUCKING LIVE HERE.
http://gothamist.com/2009/08/20/last_polaroids_sold_off_at_urban_ou.php [gothamist.com] » [gothamist.com] »
bwahaha, i love it.
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