daskol's chart (sorta) in video form (232 views)

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  • jordivision posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 10:29:01 pm
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  • bump for board libertarians in search of sublime alibi for being ~evil~ people!
  • daskol posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 10:32:52 pm
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  • I can't understand a word he's saying, it's like a fucking monty python sketch. also, you emailed me one of his essays on liberty once. I'd never read anything by him before. thanks!
  • jordivision posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 10:36:57 pm
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  • this vid is actually about the very lecture i sent you
  • daskol posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 10:42:22 pm
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  • it's interesting. while they may end supporting a similarly small government, this anti-idealism is quite apart from goldwater's conservatism as I've thought about it.
  • daskol posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 10:43:41 pm
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  • they may get to the same place, but they take different routes.
  • jordivision posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 10:48:26 pm
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  • i can deal with libertarians when they are oxford types with coherent ideologies.
  • daskol posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 10:50:38 pm
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  • do you find berlin's "positive vs. negative liberties" model more compelling and robust than, say, hayek's simpler, more general thesis about collectivism inevitably leading to tyranny?
  • jordivision posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 10:52:34 pm
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  • yes because its rooted in political theory as opposed to economics (where i do not find the argument to be as compelling). Specifically, Hobbes' notion of liberty being the absence of restraints.
  • daskol posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 10:56:42 pm
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  • I see what you're saying about berlin's model being more rooted in political theory. also, from that essay you sent, it's a lot denser than hayek, as of course theory will be. but road to serfdom is not an economics book, though I guess its ideas are "rooted there." I think it's a simple book, for the layperson, and maybe that's why you prefer this more complex formalization of a pretty similar set of ideas in berlin.
  • daskol posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 10:57:12 pm
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  • * "formulation" not "formalization"
  • daskol posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 11:04:18 pm
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  • I mean, serfdom is really interdisciplinary when I think about it. he crosses academic genres in each chapter. the economic system is at most half the book, in which he discusses why a centrally planned system will inevitably be inefficient. I find that part very compelling. the rest of the book he spends fleshing out how a democratic society might give itself over to govt in attempting to make things run better and turn itself into a nation of serfs. team hayek!
  • jordivision posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 11:06:08 pm
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  • im going to go live Hobbes' version of freedom right now in the absence of hormonally erratic restraints that have weird food cravings but will continue this later!
  • daskol posted this on February 8th, 2010 @ 11:08:14 pm
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  • I'm going to smoke weed and hopefully fall asleep on my couch.
  • daskol posted this on February 25th, 2010 @ 10:07:11 pm
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  • yeah, maybe you should pass on hicks' contact info to this guy so that hicks can give him some tips on making cool charts.
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